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	<title>Comments on: Community Managers: How much money should they make?</title>
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		<title>By: Sue John</title>
		<link>http://fastwonderblog.com/2009/08/12/community-managers-how-much-money-should-they-make/comment-page-1/#comment-109834</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CM Salaries can also be affected by geographic location and whether on-site or remote. I&#039;ve seen a couple of remote positions that whilst having similar responsibilities to an on-site employee the salary range was lower. 

I agree with Dawn in that the role still seems to be shifting and evolving and that too would account for the differences in the two survey&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CM Salaries can also be affected by geographic location and whether on-site or remote. I&#8217;ve seen a couple of remote positions that whilst having similar responsibilities to an on-site employee the salary range was lower. </p>
<p>I agree with Dawn in that the role still seems to be shifting and evolving and that too would account for the differences in the two survey&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jrep,

I absolutely agree. While a few people have had community manager titles for a long time, the job role has been changing quite a bit in the past couple of years to the point of being something of a fad. It seems like everyone calls themselves a community manager without a lot of definition about what it really means and what kind of community management they do. I suspect that it will take a couple of years before we start to get more clarity for the role and what it really means to be a community manager vs. moderator vs. relationship managers, etc. Unfortunately, it takes some time before people start to agree on a common set of well defined job titles for any new or changing industry.</description>
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<p>I absolutely agree. While a few people have had community manager titles for a long time, the job role has been changing quite a bit in the past couple of years to the point of being something of a fad. It seems like everyone calls themselves a community manager without a lot of definition about what it really means and what kind of community management they do. I suspect that it will take a couple of years before we start to get more clarity for the role and what it really means to be a community manager vs. moderator vs. relationship managers, etc. Unfortunately, it takes some time before people start to agree on a common set of well defined job titles for any new or changing industry.</p>
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		<title>By: jrep</title>
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		<dc:creator>jrep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, upon closer inspection, I think the two surveys are pretty similar--if you ignore the two hockey sticks in the first one. Both are kinda-sorta bell-ish, with a mode somewhere in the 40k-60k range. You already guessed at why the hockey sticks are present in the one survey (and my guesses are much the same); if we assume Kommein only surveyed &quot;people whose job title is community manager,&quot; that would implicitly eliminate the volunteers (left-end stick), and possibly even the celebrities (right-end).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, upon closer inspection, I think the two surveys are pretty similar&#8211;if you ignore the two hockey sticks in the first one. Both are kinda-sorta bell-ish, with a mode somewhere in the 40k-60k range. You already guessed at why the hockey sticks are present in the one survey (and my guesses are much the same); if we assume Kommein only surveyed &#8220;people whose job title is community manager,&#8221; that would implicitly eliminate the volunteers (left-end stick), and possibly even the celebrities (right-end).</p>
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		<title>By: jrep</title>
		<link>http://fastwonderblog.com/2009/08/12/community-managers-how-much-money-should-they-make/comment-page-1/#comment-109805</link>
		<dc:creator>jrep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe we need a clearer grasp of what a &quot;Community Manager&quot; is, maybe that would make the surveys make more sense? You reach for something like that, when you talk about &quot;tactical work or something more strategic,&quot; but that doesn&#039;t feel like it&#039;s reached a &quot;survey demographicable&quot; state ;-) Not sure I have the answer, either, but some thoughts expressed as distinctions:

Some community managers are &quot;community site managers,&quot; focused on managing the mechanics of the site (website management, membership, announcements, moderation). Others are &quot;community dynamics managers,&quot; focused on managing the relationships among the community members.

Some community managers represent a sponsoring company to the community, manage a site structured as an arm of the support team. Others represent the community itself, both within the community and back to a sponsoring company.

Many (probably most), of course, do some mix of the above, but might these distinctions, or something like them, reveal better result clustering?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe we need a clearer grasp of what a &#8220;Community Manager&#8221; is, maybe that would make the surveys make more sense? You reach for something like that, when you talk about &#8220;tactical work or something more strategic,&#8221; but that doesn&#8217;t feel like it&#8217;s reached a &#8220;survey demographicable&#8221; state <img src='http://fastwonderblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Not sure I have the answer, either, but some thoughts expressed as distinctions:</p>
<p>Some community managers are &#8220;community site managers,&#8221; focused on managing the mechanics of the site (website management, membership, announcements, moderation). Others are &#8220;community dynamics managers,&#8221; focused on managing the relationships among the community members.</p>
<p>Some community managers represent a sponsoring company to the community, manage a site structured as an arm of the support team. Others represent the community itself, both within the community and back to a sponsoring company.</p>
<p>Many (probably most), of course, do some mix of the above, but might these distinctions, or something like them, reveal better result clustering?</p>
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